Statements by clergy opposing homosexual ordination
Bishop Robert Duncan of Pittsburgh, who had campaigned against the ordination of the openly homosexual priest Rev. Robinson, stood at the podium in the House of Bishops, surrounded by fellow conservatives, and read a speech saying that he and the others were “filled with sorrow.” He said the Episcopal Church has “divided itself from millions of Anglicans throughout the world. This body willfully confirming the election of a person sexually active outside of holy matrimony has departed from the historic faith and order of Jesus Christ.” To provide further perspective on the issue, here is a letter written by an Episcopal priest in Pennsylvania last month opposing the ordination of Robinson:
The Rev. Geoff Chapman, rector of Saint Stephen’s, Sewickley, Pennsylvania, July 10, 2003 Posted by Lawrence Auster at August 06, 2003 06:38 PM | Send Comments
Of course, the irony in the breathless coverage of this story is they keep referring to “conservative” bishops. I think it’s no exaggeration to say that the last conservative bishop and priest left ECUSA a long time ago. After all, they ruined the BCP and “ordained” women and they’ve had openly homosexual priests for a long time. Nothing to see here, folks—move on, move on. It’s probably a good thing they did what they did today. It hastens the slide of ECUSA into utter irrelevancy from a Christian standpoint, and it makes the lines between Christian and non-Christian clearer. Posted by: Seth Williamson on August 6, 2003 7:10 PMSo, the “conservatives” don’t quite over PC language, ordination of women priests, ordination of women bishops, or higher criticism taught in all the ECUSA seminaries in the USA. But they can’t tolerate homosexuals. Some conservatives. The unfortunate thing is that Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches (who should know better) will probably still continue their “dialogue” with the ECUSA. The Orthodox are glad to talk to anybody. But the attitude of the Orthodox is the same at all times: the goal is always and only to convert others to Holy Mother Church, which means Orthodoxy. As an Orthodox convert myself, I find such honesty refreshing, although I am under no illusions that ECUSA is a field white for the harvest. After decades of slow-motion apostasy, the only people ECUSA has left are the most apathetic of pew-warmers, and outright heretics. Posted by: Seth Williamson on August 6, 2003 9:03 PMThe criticism of describing the Episcopal dissidents as “conservatives” is correct. I wrote that item as a close paraphrase of a story in today’s New York Sun, carelessly leaving in the paper’s description of the group as conservative. However, while it’s fair to say that no one who accepts female priests and bishops can be thought of as conservative, I think it’s fair to say that the dissidents are conservative in respect of the particular issue of homosexual ordination. By the way, my own parish, which has a large endowment and is therefore independent of the diocese, does not have female priests and, as far as I know, has never had a female bishop come to the church in a guest capacity. Even the choir is all boys. The only concession to females in any liturgical function is in the weekday Eucharists in the little Chantry Chapel, where a woman sometimes assists the priests. Posted by: Lawrence Auster on August 6, 2003 10:19 PMSeth, The issue isn’t “talking” to people. The question is whether or not one should attend joint prayer meetings, joint events for “Christian unity,” etc. with people who don’t believe in Christianity in any traditional sense. Posted by: Steve Jackson on August 6, 2003 10:24 PMGood point re praying with non-Christians. There are a few Orthodox prelates who cross the line. As long as the Orthodox see meetings for “Christian unity” as opportunities to evangelize for Holy Mother Church (keep in mind I speak from an Orthodox point of view) I have no problem with it. Praying with non-Christians is by definition bad. There has been a backlash recently in Orthodoxy against the two or three bishops who have sailed too near the wind here. Most of them know that it sends the wrong signal (among other things) and refrain from it. Posted by: Seth Williamson on August 7, 2003 6:05 PMVFR contributors engaged in some justified criticism of John Derbyshire some months ago about his “metroconservatives” foolishness, but we ought to acknowledge his real contributions to Christendom in examples such as this recent Corner entry where he reminded us of the miserably ignored fact that this man, Robinson, now a bishop in Christian communion, abandoned two little girls to indulge his own sexual urges. http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/03_08_03_corner-archive.asp#011882 Posted by: Paul Cella on August 8, 2003 9:55 AM |