Is it too late?

A commenter with the off-putting name “Godless Capitalist,” in a discussion at the Darwinian-oriented website 2blowhards, has an extremely pessimistic evaluation of the future. He says that unlike the Soviet Union, PC is not located in any one country where it can be isolated and weakened by an adversary civilization. PC is everywhere, dominating all our main cultural institutions, and there is no major force opposing it, as the U.S. opposed the Soviet Union. That factor, combined with our increasing Hispanic and black population (which he discuses in other comments n the same thread), dooms us.

I don’t accept his pessimistic conclusions. There’s more to reality than a Godless Capitalist can dream of. Our civilization has a soul, an essense, which, though greatly weakened, still exists and can potentially be revived. Once it revives, which must happen (if it happens at all) be a result of the increasing destructiveness and open evil of liberalism, it will be able shake off both liberalism/PC and the immigration invasion that liberalism/PC has inflicted on us.

Another reason I don’t accept Godless Capitalist’s ‘s pessimistic conclusions is that my own starting point, in the 1980s when I first became aware of the immigration and race problem, was one of utter pessimism. I knew then that short of radically turning things around, we were finished. Therefore I’m not impressed by the sudden discovery that “we’re finished.” Yes, of course we are finished, unless we turn things around. Far from being in despair, I am hopeful, because as far as any meaningful Western resistance is concerned, we have no place to go but up. At present there is no meaningful Western resistance. As long as there is none, we are finished. But a resistance could come into being, which would place us in an infinitely better position than we are in at present. So my focus is not on seeing all the ways in which we’re finished, but in trying to see how we can turn things around.

Here’s what Godless Capitalist writes:

The thing is that if you pride yourself on hard headed realism there comes a time when one has to face facts. Hope for the West—for America in particular—was my last bastion of idealism.

People compare PC to the Soviets, and say that it will fall like the Berlin Wall fell. But the Soviets faced opposition! There *was* a competing message out there, and it wasn’t from a Nobel Laureate and a Harvard Presidents who could be isolated and then eliminated. That competing message was coming from the most powerful civilization in the world, one that was even more wealthy and armed with nuclear weapons to boot. And even when *no one* believed in it anymore, with Radio Free America pelting the airwaves and bread-lines in the streets, it took decades for Communism to collapse.

But what civilization today is fighting against PC? Why would it collapse?
It controls the military, the media, the government, the corporations, and the universities. All of Western Civ has been compromised. You try to fight it publicly, and you will be quickly deprived of a job and (perhaps even more importantly) of access to mates. If you live off the grid (something almost impossible to do nowadays) you are a person of no relevance, while if you live on the grid you are vulnerable. You can’t even go meta and ask who is pushing PC and why. The penalties for asking such questions are even more severe.

The left has learned from Communism. No more weak-kneed Gorbachevs to compromise the revolution. This is Death Star version 2.0, without
the critical design flaw: namely centralized advocacy by an identifiable country. In its place we have a mutated PC of many varieties: from the racial Marxists at Harvard to the Chief Diversity Officers, from the Christian Commander in Chief to the dedicated cadres of ethnic activists…we face a decentralized PC of many colors, spending billions of dollars a day to fill the airwaves with lies, without any one target to organize against. A customized lie for every ear, for every group, to pit all vs. all.

America is done for. Some European states may survive, but in 10 years approximately half of America’s high school grads will be black or Hispanic, even if immigration is stopped today. In 20 years that is going to be more than half of people under 30. That’s murder she wrote for American capitalism, entrepreneurialism, and technology. The name of the game will be racial Marxism and Salinas.

Oh well, I console myself with the knowledge that history is not over. “Go East, young man”.

Posted by: gc on November 10, 2007 7:09 AM

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Felicie writes:

The resistance might come from Eastern Europeans, whose societies are less PC-infected. Am I too optimistic? I don’t know.

I heard the following story last year. The EU proposed building temporary refugee camps in Latvia for the third-worlders seeking the refugee status in Western Europe (so that they stay in Latvia instead of Germany or Belgium while their fates are being decided). I don’t know whether this proposal went through. But at the time, it created a lot of resentment. I was told that large billboards were erected with photographs of arab-looking men and the text: “This is your future son-in-law.”

An Indian living in the West writes:

You are right that he is too pessimistic. This is because of his biological materialism.

He fails to understand that the direction of scientific research will always be guided by public morality. These science types often live in their own cocooned world and forget this basic fact. Even in the past when so called “race realism” was more readily accepted, the direction of scientific research was always guided by what was morally acceptable.

And he’s too democratic and believes too much in the destiny of numbers. Would a black/hispanic majority turn America into a rustbowl? I don’t think so. The blacks and the Hispanics hate each other like poison. Everything I;ve read leads me to this conclusion. The Hispanics will also have those among them who will have property. These will lead them to oppose any revolution. Tocqueville says that in a country with all men owning some property, revolution is almost impossible. This cannot be ignored lightly.

It may mean that you cannot explore racial differences or cannot talk about them. But that is hardly new. It has been this way since World War II. A black/Hispanic majority won’t change that.

James M. writes:

I have hope. In my view the average Americans of European descent who occupy our flyover states have yet to succumb to the wrath of PC. Most of them still regard PC as the amusingly-misguided mores of an alien class which they don’t often interact with or fully understand. These traditional middle-Americans are not yet being affected by PC to the extent that they would fight back in earnest; PC must invade their realm a bit more aggressively before they awaken to the truth of it’s evil. In short it’s not yet close enough to them to be feared or fought, and therefore, we haven’t hit bottom yet.

LA replies:

I think people in the middle of the country are living in the same society as everyone else. They uncomplainingly swallow the same tv, the same culture, the samc schools, the same moral code, the same PC code, the same everything.

John Hagan writes:

Godless Capitalist thinks it’s too late, you do not. To refine this argument more I would say it’s too late ever to be what the United States once was. It will never be 1959 in America again. Our civic life will never be as promising again. Our streets will never be as safe again. Our public schools will never work as well again. Racial strife will never be controlled again.

Demographics are destiny—period, end of discussion. Where is Rhodesia now? It’s but a distant memory. There is a place that resembles hell on earth called Zimbabwe that occupies that space now. Where is the South Africa of amazing medical advancements and modern Western achievements? There’s something there resembling a nation, but it is being swallowed in darkness as we speak.

The United States, at best, perhaps, can hope to become a Brazil if she can get a grip on her demographics, but to think she will ever be what she was is folly. The heart and soul of the West can be reborn again, even in millions of citizens of the United States, but that’s not going to change the iron law of demographics. Ask the American Indian how being less than two percent of the population has worked out for them.

The West may rise again, and I think it will, but only after untold horrors. And when the West rights itself it will not be within the same geographical borders we now inhabit. The greatest, most transcendent awaking of the peoples of the West without enough people left in the West will not be enough to get back what we have lost, let alone save what we have.

LA replies:

The examples of S. Africa and Zimbabwe are not apposite. In those countries there were black majorities and the whites gave up political control (and were also pushed and coerced from the outside to give up control). The prospective Western revival we hope for will not be like that. It will not consist of handing a country over to the control of nonwhites, but of winning back control of the country for the white Western majority.

Thus Mr. Hagan’s examples begin with whites giving up control, giving up their ideology of cultural and political leadership, and giving up their identity as the dominant minority. A scenario of Western recovery begins with whites regaining their identity as the dominant majority, regaining their ideology of cultural and political leadership, and regaining actual political and cultural control.

Obviously if we simply continue in our current direction, then, yes, there will eventually be an effective brown-black majority. To compare even the worst projections of the U.S. demographic future with Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, a black country in which a tiny percentage of whites settled, is not accurate.

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