Fitna suppressed by threats

Due to threats of violence from Muslims, LiveLeak.com has discontinued carrying Fitna.

UPDATE: Good news: Fitna can still be seen at video.google.com. Here is the link.

And here is another working version of it, at YouTube, but I imagine it will not be available for long.

NOTE: I am told the YouTube version is not the entire movie.

UPDATE: I’m told that this webpage allows you to download the movie and save it to your hard drive in .avi format, so that you can view the movie on your own computer any time. It is approximately a 100 MB download. UPDATE:

KWM writes:

Should people find the 100MB RapidShare file too large, they can download the GoogleVideo of Fitna by going to KeepVid and following the instructions there. The downloaded file is a Flash application (.flv) and 43.1MB in size. I suggest that as many people as possible download and share it via P2P and Torrent systems. That way neither the spineless establishment nor the Religion of Peace will be able to stop its dissemination. Also, if the RapidShare file doesn’t play for lack of a codec, download GOM Player—all problems solved. Don’t like .flv or .avi files? Heaps of free converters out there.

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Matt C. writes:

Not that there is any real question in my mind, but I am curious where you saw that it was threats of violence from Muslims specifically that caused the movie to be taken down. According to LiveLeak.com’s statement, the only possible people to blame are “certain corners of the British media”. They even went to the extreme of thanking “the thousands of people from all backgrounds and religions” who lent their support. If a major media outlet is assigning blame for the removal of the movie on threats of Muslim violence, that is a silver lining around this dark cloud.

Also, this link allows you to download the movie and save it to your hard drive in .avi format. This will allow you to view the movie on your own time without worrying about it getting removed. It is approximately a 100 MB download.

LA replies:

When I read your e-mail, I went back to LiveLeak and typed out the message. It mentions “threats” of a serious nature. One must assume this means Muslims. Here’s the message, with a couple of comments by me:

Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature, and some ill informed reports from certain corners of the British media that could directly affect the safety of some staff members, LiveLeak has been left with no other choice but to remove Fitna from our servers.

This is a sad day for freedom of speech on the net but we have to place the safety and well being of our staff above all else. We would like to thank the thousands of people of all backgrounds and religions, who gave us their support. They realised LiveLeak.com is a vehicle for many opinions and not just for the support of one. [LA asks: what does that mean?]

Perhaps there is still hope that this situation may produce a discussion that could benefit and educate all of us as to how we can accept one another’s culture. [LA replies: Sorry, folks, but if you want to have free discussion in your country, especially free discussion about Islam, you cannot accept Islam in your country. If you want to accept all cultures, including Islam, that means the end of freedom. If you want freedom, you must exclude Islam. There is no escaping this choice. ]

We stood for what we believe in, the ability to be heard, but in the end the price was too high.

Liveleak.com

Laura G. writes:

Live-Leak states that “Fitna” has been pulled because of threats to their personnel and concerns for the safety of their staff. So, for anyone who doubts the importance of this film, you only have to look at the response that it and its sponsor got. It is apparent that Muslims are determined that the general public should never get into their heads the concept that there can be criticism of Muslim goals or resistance to their methods. Widespread adoption of societal defense by the native cultures would be fatal to Muslim goals and plans, and we can all look forward confidently to a future in which the Muslims in Western nations use “all means necessary” to suppress that concept and advance their agendas. This is now done with particular vigor through the suppression of adverse information about Muslims. This is why there is so little press information on issues such as rapes of Western women by Muslims, infiltration of the legal systems by Muslims, honor killings in the West, incitement to violence in mosques in the West, use of Western mosques as armories, numbers of mosques, and so forth and so on. The suppression of “Fitna” through threats is just the most recent and obvious example of the general dhimmification of all Western press. Much of it is pre-emptive self-suppression, done because the writers and editors have plenty of great examples of what happens when you investigate or distribute material adverse to Muslims. Just look at the situation surrounding the Muslim Bakery in Oakland.

As you said, this film is historic and pivotal, in large part because it is the direct act of a single citizen who decided to defend his culture from the aggressive attacks by a hostile culture of conquest. If he could, others could too. Many others could. That is the pivotal and dangerous idea which led Muslims to ensure that the film be eradicated from cyberspace.

LA replies:

Of course it has not been eradicated, since many other websites have now posted it. It has, however, been driven into the corners of society, deprived of the wide reception it should have.

Posted by Lawrence Auster at March 28, 2008 06:44 PM | Send