End of the Kennedy dynasty, end of another liberal idol
(Note, Feb. 14: many more comments harshly critical of the Kennedys, Robert Kennedy in particular, which I think are overblown, have been posted.) The late Sen. Edward Kennedy’s stupid, thuggish, embarrassing son, Patrick, a congressman from Rhode Island since 1995, and an occupant of political office since the age of 21, has announced that he is not running for re-election (see video of his resignation statement here). Which means that for the first time since 1962, there will be no Kennedy serving in Congress. Indeed, with the exception of a hiatus between 1960 to 1962, it will be the first time since 1947 that there will be no Kennedy serving in Congress:
Because of the Kennedy family’s exceptional prominence in American life, we think of the whole family as being exceptional. In reality, their prominence was due to the extraordinary qualities of two Kennedys, John F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy. The rest of the family were not extraordinary, except for their extraordinary teeth and extraordinary shared family resemblance. They were a rather mediocre, brutish bunch with a taste for self destructive behavior. The latter is seen in the deaths of:
She also disconcerted the press and public with her “ums” and “y’knows.” In a 30 minute interview with the New York Daily News, she said, “y’know,” 200 times—once every nine seconds for 30 minutes. Excerpts from the interview:
About tax cuts: “Well, you know, that’s something, obviously, that, you know, in principle and in the campaign, you know, I think that, um, the tax cuts, you know … “The discovery of Caroline’s utter lack of personality, talent, ability to speak, and knowledge of politics killed her chances to be appointed to the Senate. And that is why Patrick Kennedy’s departure will leave the Congress without a Kennedy for the first time in almost 50 years. Oh wait. The Kennedy political dynasty might have continued in a manner of speaking, even in the absence of any Kennedy in political office, if Barack Obama, as had been widely predicted, had turned out to be the reincarnation of President Kennedy. But, to paraphrase Sarah Palin’s remark to Obama in her Tea Party speech: “How’s that Return of Kennedy thing workin’ out for yah?”
Jim C. writes:
1. By far the most talented and brilliant Kennedy was Joseph Sr.LA replies:
Joe Jr. was a big palooka with a huge ego but not very capable. His sickly younger brother Jack, whom he bullied, consistently outshone him, for example, with his senior thesis which was turned into the book While England Slept. He died because, after Jack became a hero in the PT 109 incident in the Pacific, Joe was desperate to do something equally noteworthy; the thought of his younger brother being more celebrated than himself was unbearable to him. So he volunteered for Operation Aphrodite (look it up at Wiki), an extremely dangerous mission involving flying planes loaded with explosives, then bailing out, and the planes would be guided by remote control to their targets in Germany. The plane he was piloting blew up prematurely in mid air. He died as a direct result of seeking to equal his younger brother.James P. writes:
“Because of the Kennedy family’s exceptional prominence in American life, we think of the whole family as being exceptional. In reality, their prominence was due to the extraordinary qualities of two Kennedys, John F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy.”LA replies:
This is one of the most off-base, prejudice-filled comments I’ve ever read. Whatever Robert Kennedy was, he was an extremely capable, can-do individual. You ought to read a biography about him.James P. writes:
You wrote:LA replies:
Which biographies (not hatchet jobs) said what you said about RFK?James P. writes:
“Spoiled” does not mean lazy. I don’t think he was lazy—and indeed, it would have been hard for him to be lazy in that family. Dogged persistence more than intelligence or intellectual curiosity got him through Harvard and UVA. Yet his energy, his intense activity, his dogged persistence were applied to far from admirable ends—chiefly, personal and family advancement—in pursuit of which he used far from admirable means—including brutal abuse of subordinates. He would never have gotten anywhere—least of all Attorney General, Senator, or Presidential Candidate—if not for who his father and brother were.LA replies:
Bobby Kennedy’s energies were used mainly for personal and family advancement? So that’s the main objection to him now from conservatives, rather than that he used his impressive energies and abilities to advance liberalism?David B. writes:
Your post on the Kennedys is a good one. It was an impressive feat for JFK to beat Henry Cabot Lodge for a Senate seat in 1952. If he had been no more articulate and intelligent than his daughter Caroline, he would never have made it even with his father’s fortune behind him. I previously posted at VFR the anecdote (from magazine editor Charles Peters) about JFK and his writer, Ted Sorensen. When Sorensen was giving a speech in his place, JFK (who had laryngitis) had to break in and make the points Sorensen missed. Peters noted that John F. Kennedy was smarter than the man who was supposedly his brain.Jim C. writes:
LA replies:February 14 James P. writes:
You wrote:James P. writes:
You wrote: “Which biographies (not hatchet jobs) said what you said about RFK? “James P. writes:
You wrote: “Bobby Kennedy’s energies were used mainly for personal and family advancement? So that’s the main objection to him now from conservatives, rather than that he used his impressive energies and abilities to advance liberalism?”N. writes:
… and that is why they are idolized, in my opinion. Rum-running, pro-Nazi, Jew-hating Joe Kennedy made his money in various unsavory ways, including manipulation of stock prices. He had the sense to buy good press. Saint John the Martyr should have been cashiered after losing his Navy vessel in the Solomans, but political connections of his father prevented that.N. writes :
For the record, I find hatred to be a dangerous emotion and strive to avoid it. I can have pity for individual people even as I despise their actions, their words, and aspects of their lives. I can pity individual members of the Kennedy crime family [1] even as I despise just about everything they stand for, every book that was ghost written for them (including “Profiles in Courage”), every hagiographic word ever mumbled by Ted Sorensen, every after-school special, every PBS retrospective, every hollow intonation of “Camelot,” etc.LA writes:
I’ve now posted James P.’s and N’s comments on the subject. I repeat what I said before. In my view, there is a kind of over-emotional anti-Kennedyism which I think is not true and not useful. There are people who, the moment the name Kennedy is mentioned in any context, start spewing in vitiolic terms the case against the Kennedys. In the present case, all that happened was that I said that John and Robert Kennedy had “extraordinary” qualities. I wasn’t approving them, I wasn’t calling them great men. I was merely saying that they both had extraordinary qualities. Yet that was enough to trigger an onslought of anti-Kennedy remarks that to my mind are so overblown they sound like bigotry.February 16 Alan Levine writes:
I read your initial comments on the withdrawal of Patrick Kennedy and the Kennedys in general some days ago. I did not comment though it seemed to me (as it has before) that you were a might soft on JFK and RFK. [LA replies: All I said was that they both had “extraordinary” qualities, which is obviously true. The word “extraordinary” doesn’t necessarily mean they were great or even good men. It doesn’t mean I was approving of them. But the mere statement of any praise for Kennedys is enough to set off a wave of Kennedy hostility from some quarters. So go ahead, Alan. The floor is yours.] Yet that was enough to set off this outpouring. There are people who I did not want to agree to disagree again. I was offline for some days and saw the rest of the thread today. Seeing the lengthy exchanges that resulted, I have to say that I am largely in agreement with the comments of James P. and N., however over the top they may seem to you. Yes, JFK and RFK were obviously intelligent and articulate, vastly more so than George shrub junior, and JFK was loaded with charm and a great speaker. He was also a drug addict, a pathological liar, and bully whose whole life was a lie. He was not even physically fit for the Presidency. RFK was not obviously incapable, but I doubt he would have gotten anywhere without his brother (even within JFK’s administration, he was widely disliked and called “the little bastard.”) He was also a bully and a thoroughly nasty character, who had quasi-treasonable dealings with the Soviets and physically assaulted Chester Bowles. Both men were so surrounded by flatterers and court biographers and historians that it is still hard to see what they really were like. I suggest that you look at Thomas Reeves and Seymour Hersh on the Kennedy Administration. I can only say that both brothers, though doubtless better than the rest of Kennedys, were even more awful than I have made them sound, or even than Reeves makes them sound. I myself grew up admiring JFK (I never had much use for RFK or the rest of the clan) but in the last 35 years have learned that what I believed about JFK was almost entirely false. I have dealt with aspects of JFK and his administration in several of my books (mostly on the Cold War and the space race) and have never found anything that did not make me think worse of the man…. Both brothers were thoroughly despicable and it is very hard not to hate them. In fact, while there may well have been and perhaps ARE men in the White House who have done more damage to the USA, I think that JFK was the most evil, perhaps the only really evil President, we have ever had. By the way, I do not care much about his womanizing, although that too was worse than we usually hear (e.g. the Rometsch woman). In JFK’s case, cheating on his wife was about the nicest thing he did. At least, it kept him out of deeper involvement in public life! I remain a little puzzled by your “softness” on the Kennedy brothers. Posted by Lawrence Auster at February 13, 2010 09:05 AM | Send Email entry |