Are there disincentives to black savagery that are both effective and civilized?
(Note: Several interesting comments have been added to this entry.)
James N. writes:
In response to your post, “What I and VFR are not about,” I think that the disincentives that our culture has chosen to replace historical ones are not working to prevent savage crimes such as those that VFR has been discussing.
Why is this so?
A lower IQ individual is more impulsive and displays less forethought than a higher IQ one. Lemaricus Davidson (of the Knoxville Atrocity) would not have done what he did in 1940 because, among other things, he would have been committing suicide.
When he did the things he did, whatever punishment the State of Tennessee would be likely to impose was of no concern to him, probably because it was both remote and not so bad.
This is a problem that has to be solved, and it would be highly desirable to do so without a reversion to barbarism.
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David B. writes:
James N. wrote:
“Lemaricus Davidson (of the Knoxville Atrocity) would not have done what he did in 1940 because, among other things, he would have been committing suicide.”
If Davidson had done it in 1940, he would have been strapped in the electric chair inside of two years. Now, he’s going to be tried again and the odds are likely 50-50 he won’t get a death sentence this time. Even if he receives the death penalty again, it takes up to 30 years for Tennessee to carry it out. This does make it seem remote and the Supreme Court may well abolish it once and for all before then. I assure you Davidson is well aware of this.
I was in the courtroom when Davidson was sentenced to death in 2010. He was unperturbed and somewhat defiant. If he had known his execution was the next day instead of in 30 years, I think his attitude would have been different.
If that’s not enough, there was a recent story on how well fed and well treated death row prisoners in Tennessee are. The authorities say it helps control them.
Alexis Zarkov writes:
You ask: “Are there disincentives to black savagery that are both effective and civilized?”
A good question. Depends on what “civilized” means. In the context of today’s politics, I’m afraid the answer is “no”—only an iron fist policy will hold down the savagery. [LA replies: But of course I am not speaking in the context of today’s politics, since within the context of today’s politics no effective disincentives to black violence are possible. Readers should remember that whenever I raise general questions such as the above, I am speaking of a possible future political order, which could only come into being after the demise of liberalism.] Punishment is far from either swift or certain, and blacks are not afraid of prison. About a third of black men will spend time in jail at some point in their life. This alone shows how ineffective the threat of prison is. What is to be done? I think more school discipline might help. Black boys as young as six show evidence of violent tendencies. Use corporal punishment with its concomitant humiliation as a means of instant punishment. For older boys, the cane. Many generations of English school boys survived the cane. The British stopped caning, and look what’s happened to them. Of course contemporary school discipline is going in the opposite direction. Obama wants black children punished less so as to equalize the punishment rates of blacks and whites, regardless of any differences in their behavior. Maryland has already implemented the Obama policy. We are doomed to a future of more of the same. Protect yourself.
Dan K. writes:
James N. wrote:
“[T]he disincentives that our culture has chosen to replace historical ones are not working to prevent savage [black] crimes.”
There is an obvious non-barbaric solution to savage black crime if we look to history. As the liberal order crashes and burns a search for a replacement will revisit historical devices and look for ways to apply them in current circumstances.
One solution to the threat posed by a violent, dangerous, and unassimilable population was obvious to the Americans of the 19th century: RESERVATIONS. Hence the development of Indian reservations that solved the “Indian Problem” short of extermination. Read about the Comanches. Only the reservation system saved them from extermination as they were hated and feared by the whites, by Mexicans and by other Indians.
Another solution, used by the British in the 16th and 17th centuries to deal with their dangerous criminals, was TRANSPORTATION. The lucky ones were sent to Australia, the unlucky ones to Barbados.
I suggest that the Black Undertow [TM Paul Kersey] will become so bad, especially if the ongoing economic collapse of the country continues, that the political mood will look for some kind of separation as a solution to the black problem that stalks the U.S. A reverse Section 8 housing plan will be considered—no, it will be demanded. More stringent proposals will follow.
BC writes:
In response to James N., I would suggest that the average citizen could greatly deter criminal behavior by obtaining a concealed carry permit and regularly carrying a weapon. If it became even somewhat likely for a criminal to be shot by a citizen in self defense or defense of others, I believe most criminals would think twice before committing violent acts. This solution has the benefit of being civilized and moral.
Posted by Lawrence Auster at August 28, 2012 03:47 PM | Send